DESCRIPTION: this is the band The Widders. this was what the Cacti Widders called themselves after the departure of JD goodwin on guitar and vocals, and clayton kemble took over on guitar and vocals. it is a MUCH heavier sound than the cacti widders, best described as motorhead with a stand up bass. this is the best production of all the cacti widders and widders albums and is still available thru fallen angel records.