Things We Say

victor had been wanting to start a straight up youth crew hardcore band for a long time.

finally he named the band as "things we say" and recorded 4 song demo at one of his friends garage in toronto, canada in may 2004. lenny from hands down (R.I.P) played drums for him and victor did everything else. victor's visa got expired and had to go back to his home country, korea. he decided to start this band in korea and talked to his friends. kiseok from the geeks decided to play bass and joonsung wanted to help on guitar. kameron emailed victor and told him that he wanted to play drums. september 2004. right after victor got arrived in korea, things we say started jamming in seoul.